INTERNATIONAL HUMANITARIAN LAW. Jon Faine interviews Helen Durham, Director of International Law and Policy at the International Committee of the Red Cross, to talk about her storied humanitarian law career. Durham talks about her large army of legal workers to officiate and operate within humanitarian issues worldwide; her need to be more than just her career, noting a song once written for her by an Australian band; the nature of humanitarian law practices for non-state actors, narrating an experience translating a South Sudan army’s wrestling matches into a discussion about law-based order; and the nature of the proper applications of the Geneva Convention.